Tuesday, June 10, 2014

The Pathetic Aesthetic ...

... or Oldhammer and the OSR.

Because I don't have enough gaming projects, I'm thinking about getting into Oldhammer (using older versions of the Warhammer rules to play games for fun instead of with a tournament mindset).  I'd say it's the minis equivalent of the OSR.

This is from last year, but Andy Bartlett's post on The Pathetic Aesthetic from the blog Known World, Old World encapsulates a lot of great points about the OSR and the Oldhammer movement.  A very thoughtful article that I urge you to check out.  And see robotforaday's post with similar thoughts on Going Old School at Where the Sea Pours Out.

8 comments:

HoldFast said...

Oldhammer is an interesting idea. When GW produces a new edition, it often involves a new set of armies and all new sculpts and new units; rendering the old products useless. It's good to see players still enjoying a quality game that really didn't need improvement. I'd like to build a Tyranid army, but mostly for tha figures alone.

Desert Scribe said...

But the old products aren't useless! It's amazing how GW has convinced gamers of that, when you can still use them in your Warhammer games using any edition, or with other rules like Kings of War, or even for Hordes of the Things like we've all done.

(That's not directed at you personally, but at gamers in general. I think you and I are on the same page when it comes to gaming with old figures.)

Thirdpower said...

I played WH: Undead way back when. When they switched to Mummy Kings/Vampires they devalued, discontinued, and split a huge number of my forces so it encouraged me to find something else to spend my money on.

I've actually sold off most of the army to people who still play older versions but have kept a few units of my favorites. http://daysofourtrailers.blogspot.com/2012/11/gaming-goodness.html

HoldFast said...

Yes, I agree with Scribe concerning old figures. The old versions of WH are certainly not useless. I only meant to say they lose most or all value if your intention is to continue playing WHFB or 40K with the new versions. That is an issue that has upset many players. I'm not one of them however. My experience with GW games is exclusively HeroQuest, Warmaster, and the Lord of Rings/Hobbit Strategy Battle Games. That being said, I am interested in collecting old Tyranids. Mostly because they look cool and can be used in any type of 28mm sci-fi skirmish game.

Andy Bartlett said...

Hey, thanks for digging out my old rant. As for old Warhammer minis coming back as HotT armies, that is exactly what I have planned for all my half finished and half-painted armies (which rarely see any game time these days due to the length of time it takes to set up, play, and pack away a WFB 8e game).

Desert Scribe said...

Thanks for stopping by, Andy. Be sure and post pics once you have those WH armies based for HotT.

Andy Bartlett said...

Just a quick question on 28mm Warhammer basing for HotT - do you use the 60mm base width recommended for 25mm miniatures?

I can get the GW LotR figures to fit four abreast on a 60mm base, but I can envisage problems with some of the chunky (nominally 28mm) Warhammer figures - I wouldn't want to get my Dwarves squeezed onto 60mm wide bases if I need to rebase them all when I find that Orcs (or whatever) need to be on 80mm wide bases0.

Desert Scribe said...

Hey Andy! Sorry to take so long to get back to you; I saw this comment but then forgot about it until now.

Regarding basing: Yes, we all use 60mm frontages with our WH minis, since we also have players with other 25mm figures based on the 60mm width stands.